ah great stuff, will use that instead. Also I was wondering, the comment form you use on this site, when you click submit does it skip validation of the author name and email address due to the use of #value to display 'Your name...' or whatever it was? Ie it validates the text 'Your name' as correct? been trying to do something similar, have resorted to using the 'hint' module which replaces the #title attribute of a field with a 'hint' which then hides when the field gains focus... however I am experience the issue i just mentioned still :S bit of a random comment, sorry